Overseas and Over-50: Ask a Question, Share Experiences, Advice and Support
International Educators aging on the circuit report it’s becoming increasingly difficult to land positions. Age-related visa limits, health insurance restrictions, schools that hire less experienced teachers to cut costs and a variety of other unforseen obstacles are factors affecting aging international educators. Here’s the place to share experiences, advice, support and ask questions on being Overseas and Over-50. Also see our Visa/Age/Country Chart.
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BK says:
September 9, 2009 at 10:00 pm
Hiring younger teachers may not be as cost cutting as one thinks. We have hired a teacher this year with no experience. The administration is paying several teachers to support this person and in addition has had to deal with parents that recognize the inexperience.
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barry says:
September 9, 2009 at 10:05 pm
Horses for courses. I am 60 and working in Japan. The school, like others, has raised the final age to 65. IN keeping with the country’s laws I understand.
I have also been offered a job in S.E.Asia at the age of 60.
So they are out there. Some schools are realizing that older teacher know stuff and they ain’t sick so much.
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Marilyn says:
September 9, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Health Insurance can be a big problem.
Even if you have your age on the web…sometimes Directors do not read all the information.
Group insurance is difficult to get.
Is anyone out there teaching in their 70′s?
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Jim says:
September 10, 2009 at 4:07 am
I’m 72. I was surprised to get an offer three years ago. I’ve sometimes wondered if I’m the oldest teacher out in the system.
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Doug says:
September 10, 2009 at 7:03 am
Hi Jim:
It sounds like you are still enjoying yourself. I am 57 and looking for opportunities. Might you let me know where you are working.
Thanks for this.
Doug
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E says:
September 10, 2009 at 8:21 am
Hi, Doug.
I am another reader of this issue. To respond to your inquiry, look at Lebanon.
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Nordic soul says:
December 19, 2009 at 8:30 am
Hi Jim,
I’m 58 and thinking of moving on. Would you mind telling me which country you are in? I could stay on where I am but like the idea of exploring other options before I retire but it’s a bit scary resigning before I secure something. I still have lots of energy left and a wealth of IB experience.
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Jim (in Germany) says:
December 20, 2009 at 6:21 am
NS,
I’m in Germany.
It’s always a gamble to resign first. In some cases heads expect you to, in others they are understanding or even supportive and give you some leeway. Good luck!
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Anonymous says:
July 3, 2011 at 6:53 am
I spent days giving ADEC all the information they needed to complete my application. After I gave them copies of my passport, social security number, address, parents’ addrress, and all of that information one really doesn’t want to give out, I never heard from them again. I might add here that I am highly qualified in eight fields and all grades. I finally called them to check on my status and was told the school in the UAE had a cut-off of 59. “59″ ?????? I’m 60, so that was a slap in the face. I smell a fish. If ADEC is doing the hiring for these Middle Eastern schools, why don’t they just get the age preferences from the schools before they waste our time? If I were a recruiter, I would definitely ask the big age question when taking on their account.
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Jim (in Germany) says:
July 3, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Anonymous,
It may be because agencies want your business and schools sometimes want to “leave the door open” in case they are either desperate, (at the last minute, etc) or they have some criteria, for making offers or rejecting candidates, that they want to keep hidden to avoid candidates “filling in the blanks”, making their resume fit. That’s my guess anyway …..
Ann says:
January 20, 2010 at 2:07 am
As one who is over 52 and so far can find work overseas, have you considered the UAE. They do hire older teachers. Look up ADEC (Abu Dhabi Education Council). Yes, you will have to first check out places & (entire pkg) where you could live (Dubai, AD, Al Ain, Al Gharbia) but the salary is good. Kids behavior is well…
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Cheryl says:
June 30, 2011 at 8:02 pm
If you work in UAE as a woman can you get around and sightsee without restriction?
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Gloria says:
July 30, 2010 at 8:20 pm
I d am trying to find a job in another country. I am a doctor (college) of business and 63 years old. I am healthy and can pass for 40. Any suggestions?
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ksans says:
September 1, 2010 at 11:10 am
South America has no age limits, and lots of possibilities.
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MN says:
September 9, 2010 at 10:23 pm
South America does have age limits and more countries are adding them for work visa restrictions. Sometimes it is the school’s policy to add the age limits.I went to two job fairs and saw the age limits posted in almost every SA school. This was in Dec 2009 and Jan 2010. I heard this was new this year. Age limits were from 55 to 62.
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Jude says:
December 3, 2010 at 8:02 pm
Hi Jill
I am curious where you are at 72. I was lucky to get a job at 67 and am very happy here. We should compare notes
Jude
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Gloria says:
February 8, 2011 at 7:45 am
where are you teaching (country) for the over 60 age?
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Nanette Moseley says:
February 9, 2011 at 4:03 am
I, too am interested to know the answers to this question. I am 62, have little experience, although my Degree IS in Education and I am TEFL certified. My friends who are my age and working have good credentials, and tell me it is more the lack of experience than the age, but I have sent out SO MANY applications, none who are responding, or, say k.. too old.
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Been there….. says:
March 21, 2011 at 8:48 pm
I am wondering now if the market has just not got tougher everywhere. I am 60 and returned to the US after teaching overseas for 3 years while I was 59. In 8 months of sending out applications for a job (ANY job) in the US, I’ve had one phone interview. As my age has not come up, it cannot be a factor-yet.
I sometimes look at overseas postings and it seems to me that over the course of three years, the requirements for these jobs has gotten tougher and more specific and the salaries have gone down. The Middle East in particular now wants not only a Masters, but specific ones (linguistics seems very popular).
Very likely other people-better qualified, younger, etc. unable to find jobs in their own countries are flooding the market, making it even more difficult to get a teaching job overseas.
I don’t mean to be negative, just passing on my experience. I can tell you that there are certain countries to avoid like the plague-Korea and Thailand as far as the age thing goes.
China will accept people who are older-the salaries are not great, but almost always they will provide a free apartment and cover some airfare costs.
Good luck and keep trying.
Anonymous says:
November 26, 2011 at 7:38 pm
I am in South India. I began my contract at the age of 61, and I will be 63 in less than a year from now. India’s age limit is 68, and I have been on staff with three other woman over 60. I am in a high-tech (rapidly growing) city.
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Barbara says:
September 9, 2009 at 10:21 pm
Two years ago I had a contract pulled for a Head of the English Department position at a girls’ school in Saudi Arabia. I was over sixty and the country would not grant me a work visa. In desperation I scrambled to get my profile together for Search Associates (which I highly recommend) and attended the last job fair of the year in June. Hours of work resulted in thirteen interviews at the fair and seven solid job offers. I don’t count three other offers where the recruiter was unaware that I was too old to get a work visa in his country. In addition, I had several other offers, both before the fair and after I had signed my current contract with Quality Schools International at Tirana International School in Albania. It is true that many countries won’t grant a work visa if you are over sixty and you probably won’t land the job of your dreams, especially in this tight economy. But your years of experience and your maturity and poise at interviews will pay off if you modify your expectations a bit.
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celticsong says:
September 9, 2009 at 10:45 pm
I am 64, and have been teaching in international schools for the past sixteen years. I can honestly say that my age has never been a factor in a negative way. Quite the opposite! I attended the Search Associate Fairs, and there were always five or more job offers to consider each time. Part of the rosy picture: I am a “proven product.” Administrative evaluations back this up, and the interviews are sincerely enjoyable, as the questions seem to at one time or another, involve real situations I’ve already experienced. And the self confidence and definite answers probably relect and reveal a veteran teacher.Another factor that contributes to smooth sailing regardless of age: I teach choral music and some years there doesn’t seem to be a lot of us out there. So, even though a given country might have age limits, (Germany for example) it didn’t effect either the job offer nor the working visa. This is my last year of teaching, however. But it is my decision to finally stop developing choirs. But I won’t retire. There are so many possibilities out there waiting to be explored! I also wanted to say that I did make sure to teach 21 years in the public school system so that at the appropriate time (age 65) I would be eligible for teacher retirement from the State where I taught. So, I think this issue has a variety of possibilities for anyone approaching the older age of the spectrum! I did land the job of my dreams, in Thailand and at the age of 60!
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Another Music Teacher says:
January 8, 2010 at 12:48 pm
I am also a music teacher but 71 who loves teaching music and would like to continue. Do you have any suggestions? I’ve taught ES through college – general, choral and applied voice.
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Roundtrip says:
December 4, 2010 at 6:49 am
Hi Celtic, Your post has given me hope. I have a Skype interview next week with a school in Thailand and I just turned 60. How do you like living in Thailand?
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55 – to move on or stay? says:
September 10, 2009 at 2:27 am
Interesting discussion here which cant be more timely for me. My very good school has a policy to retire teachers at 60. I will get to the end of my 2 year contract next year. I am 54 now and by xmas have to decide if should leave at 55 or sign another two year contract, to try to get another job at 57 or sign for 4 years and try to get another job at 59. I like where I work and would probably eventually choose to retire in this country (even if I do work a while in another country first). I cannot afford to retire at 60 so really need to go on until 65. When to move?
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Donna Nyilasi says:
September 19, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Dear 55,
Don’t worry about anything. Just stay where you are until you turn 59. I got jobs at 58, 59, and several offers after turning 60 last May. I have also been invited to apply for a position which starts next year, where I can stay until I’m too old to stand up, as long as I am a productive teacher. Not only that, but you will receive internal promotions. So if you like where you are… just STAY. Like in a marriage!
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55 – to move on or stay? says:
September 23, 2009 at 12:47 am
Thanks Donna – very reassuring. I like the bit about marriage! ha ha !
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Jimmy in Korea says:
November 16, 2009 at 6:23 am
Donna-Where are you working?Are you teaching ESL?I have a teaching license in Elementary Educ from the usa 2001-2013.have been teaching ESL in Korea 2003 to now.They wanna retire me Jan 31,2010 when my contract expires with 5 years at same public school.I will be 62 in Jan.Any suggestions or advise truly welcome.I just wanna teach 1-2 more years in Korea and then retire to the Philippines.Other countries are an option too….Jimmy in Korea……jlewellen2003@yahoo.com
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Olderwiser says:
February 5, 2010 at 2:32 pm
Donna, Ray Varey here writing to you from Weimar Germany. Glad to see you are still in the game as I am at 66. Love to teach, love to travel and you can end up in some interesting places.
All the best…remember the staffroom in Room 15 at AH&VS all those many years ago?
Cheers!
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Gloria says:
July 30, 2010 at 8:23 pm
where are some places?
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Oldie says:
February 4, 2012 at 11:52 am
Hi there
I have been told that i will have to leave my job in Riyadh, Saudi in 2013 and by then i will be 68. I love teaching and have taught all my life and woud like to continue to do so. I am very highly qualified, fit and healthy and teach primary with a special interest in art. Where are you?
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ted nykiel says:
September 10, 2009 at 3:08 am
I am 63 , soon to be 64 ( single). I am now teaching for QSI in Tbilisi and previously taught for them in Turkmenistan , on a temporary contract for 6 months in 2008. QSI hires ” veteran teachers”. They do not discriminate because of age, which quietly seems to happen with some schools ,boards or directors. You are hired by QSI because of ability and recommendations you have provided from your past administrators.
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mls says:
September 10, 2009 at 11:24 pm
If the school has a policy of hiring “veteran teachers” then they clearly do discriminate on the basis of age; just in your favor in this instance, and against younger teachers.
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Jim says:
September 11, 2009 at 5:15 am
Can everybody see the fallacy in saying “If the school has a policy of hiring “veteran teachers” then they clearly do discriminate on the basis of age; just in your favor in this instance, and against younger teachers.”
??? If not, I will be happy to explain!
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redpen says:
October 4, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Maybe that is a misquote, that QSI hires “vetern teachers”. They tend to hire older, experienced overseas teachers by taking advantage of them; for the pay package is not that great compared to other international schools. I imagine many younger couples would not want to work for QSI and the ones that do would most likely be the “rookies” who can be a “risk” for any overseas school. Since QSI schools are in remote places, many new overseas teachers may find these countries too big of an adjustment for them.
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Noor says:
February 7, 2010 at 6:38 am
I am 64 have been sending resumés for the last few months with no results. I just finished a three year fellowship to an Arab country and would like to continue teaching the rest of my life.I feel as if I have no chance and am about to give up. Any suggestions?
I have a MA degree from 2005 and 5 years experience but many more from various professions and up until now do not fit with other people of my age…not my fault just don’t want to die yet!!
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Anonymous says:
September 10, 2009 at 3:36 am
I’m swiftly approaching the “over-the-hill” age for women which in the US is anyone over 30! Mercefully, I don’t look that old. If I cannot find any work anywere I will step in from of the next bus. For me there is no alternative. If I can’t work, I can’t eat. So I’m willing to go anywere.
If you know of countries who will grant work visa for teachers over 50 please publish the list.
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Gloria E says:
December 3, 2010 at 6:13 pm
Hello Anonymous,
I am a 55 year old female looking into teaching EFL in Russia – age there does not seem to be an obstacle. (Granted, these are not ISS positions, don’t know about that. No reason to ever step in front of a bus! I realize that you wrote your post quite a while ago and hope that you are by now well-employed. I wish you the best of luck.
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MM Page says:
September 10, 2009 at 4:32 am
I have argued with ISS about this issue. ISS says that they can’t publish countries that have age limits because schools don’t always funrnish this information and in the US it is called age discrimination and is illegal. It is very disconcerting to have an interview that seems to have gone well and then not hear a word from a school. They can’t tell you that they can’t hire you because of your age.
I am a math teacher over 60 currently teaching in Ghana. The African countries don’t seem to have age limits. I am not worried about finding my next job because I plan to retire for good from here.
With so many teachers reaching the magic number, I am confident that there will be easing of the age limits in the future, but that doesn’t help those of us who are now over 60.
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Rountrip says:
December 5, 2009 at 8:47 am
Hi MM,
I wonder why the school would even bother to interview you if they were not going to consider you because of your age. They have seen your paper work before the interview, so they would know how old you were. I’m 59 and anxious about my possibilities, too. Good luck to you.
Roundtrip
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jeaddhg says:
September 10, 2009 at 5:50 am
There is no problem in Saudi Arabia until 60. Even then if you are in post- and the school want you, you can stay. We have a very spritely 74 year old( i think) she is atill a great teacher – the kids love her- so why would the school get rid of a good member of staff. my husband started at 59- he has even been poffered promotion- I feel in saudi that if you are good age is not a problem- BUt you must get your first post under 59 I think.
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Oldie says:
February 4, 2012 at 11:57 am
Which school in Saudi. I too am teaching in Riyadh and have been told i will have to leave.
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chowmein says:
September 10, 2009 at 6:49 am
A few years ago, I interviewed for a job (in Dubai)that became available at a job fair. The first question the interviewer asked me was, “How old are you?” It was good thing I was not 60-years-old at the time. I took and am still at a job somewhere else where age is not an issue. I am concerned, however, whether I will get a job in another international school or in the US, given my age and the current economic circumstances.
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Ray Varey says:
September 10, 2009 at 7:38 am
Shortly before I retired I attended a job fair but wondered why an international school would want to hire someone of my age? As I stood in line to talk with various school administrators I listened to the questions being asked by young teachers and those candidates fresh from teachers’ college. In their questions and concerns lay the answer to my question! As an experienced, mature teacher you have so many more skills and so much more experience than many beginning teachers. These are exactly the qualities that international schools look for. They want teachers who are flexible and who are not going to need much support, teachers who can be excellent in the classroom with or without the best textbooks or curriculum and sometimes challenging timetables, those that have survival skills and are self sufficient. Since that job fair I have been a director for a QSI school and taught history in Kosova when a young beginning teacher went home becasue he couldn’t adjust to teaching overseas. I’m experienced, excellent with kids, full of energy and ideas, know how to solve problems and I’m looking for similar assignments again in spite of my age.
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Donna says:
September 19, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Ray Varey, are you from Hamilton, Ontario?
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Olderwiser says:
February 5, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Yes, ’tis I
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Summer says:
May 21, 2011 at 4:48 am
Hi Ray,
Where are you now?
Summer
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Catherine Blackmore says:
May 24, 2012 at 11:35 pm
R Varney
Would you please let me know the full name for QSI as I am having considerable trouble finding a position for the 2012/2013 Academic Year. I am 62years of age and will be that age when the new teaching year starts. I have been Head of English in the Emirates of Dubai and at present I am Head of Early Years in Kuwait so have to leave because of visa restrictions. I would appreciate your help very much. I have not had a single sick day since I arrived in the Emirates in 2007. I am very healthy and energetic.
Thanks
Catherine Kuwait
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Annemirl says:
September 10, 2009 at 12:11 pm
What might keep you from getting a job in the US is not your age, but your experience in years. If school boards have to pay you at a higher step on the salary scale due to your years of experience, they will often opt for a beginner who will work at base salary.
I am over 60, retired in the US and have been working in international schools for the past 8 years. I wish I had started decades ago, because I really love the experience.
My health is good, and I would love to keep going, but
realistically I know my chances are slim of finding another job after I complete my present contract. I have run into too many instances where age has been a barrier. Some schools will be right upfront about it, and ask about your age at the sign up for the interview.
In one instance I had a very positive interview, and felt that my chances were very good. I knew that an administrator I had worked for in a previous school was at the interviewing school and was pulling for me. The following day I was told by the Director in an email that he felt I “might not be the person they were looking for”. I think that really meant that I was too old.
Luckily for me I was hired by a very good school in a country that does not seem to have age restrictions, and I am happy to be here.
It is true that QSI schools do not consider age in their hiring practice, but the downside is that they strongly favor couples over singles.
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Susan says:
September 10, 2009 at 6:17 pm
jeaddhg I just read your post and was really surprised by it! I was offered a nice contract, via a recruiter, to teach at an international school in Taif, Saudi Arabia. However, I was told that the embassy turned down my visa because I was a female over 55 – men could receive visas until they were 60.
Was I lied to?
Thanks and I would really appreciate a response!
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Donna says:
September 19, 2009 at 5:17 pm
Susan, don’t apply the Western concept of “lying”. Rules in such countries are not hard and fast, and are not created by Embassies. They didn’t want you, and are too polite to say why… maybe the owner’s daughter’s girlfriend requested your job. It could be quite complicated due to INTERNAL cultural obligations. You might apply to another institution there and get a long-term contract! It also depends on the “influence” (wasta) factor of the institution seeking to employ you. There are a lot of jobs in Saudi Arabia, due to its huge youth population. Try a Saudi institution rather than an international school.
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Florence says:
September 10, 2009 at 7:09 pm
I retired at 55 from a full career in North America and then taught two years in South America and two more in SE Asia, going home for family reasons though both schools lobbied hard to keep me. Upon reapplying at age 60 I’ve had zero expressions of interest. Many countries, including especially Middle Eastern and some Latin American countries, have published age restrictions ranging from 45-60. By the way, though my younger colleagues at both international schools regularly took “sick” days, of the real and virtual types, I missed a total of 6 days in four years, as well as working longer hours and volunteering for the weekend and evening activities to be found at these schools. Perhaps the older generation has a different sense of commitment while younger colleagues see it as a job; I’m not sure which is a healthier attitude. But I do know that schools and students get more than their money’s worth out of mature teachers.
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mary says:
September 11, 2009 at 7:55 am
I agree with you. I just turned 60 and have had many interviews and it always came down to aga and health insurance. Some middle east countries put right on their application form that nobody over 52 need apply.
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redpen says:
September 10, 2009 at 7:34 pm
I have been teaching overseas for over 23 years– in my late 50′s now. I need to leave the present school before they tell me to leave due to being too expensive.(past history indicates this will happen at this particular school) I am not 60 yet but know if I want to interview for a new international post, it is best I do it this year than later. It is so ironic how we as eductors encourage each other and our “clients” (the students) to keep going to school; yet, it can work against us educators for being too expensive for a new position. The with the age factor, why is an energetic 50, or 60 year old looked upon by some schools as “not desirable”; meanwhile, we find an older, more experienced lawyer, doctor, accountant, or even a plane mechanic more desirable for his/her services than a younger one?
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Jude says:
September 1, 2010 at 3:23 am
Try Korea
no age limit
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Been there… says:
October 7, 2010 at 8:08 pm
I’m sorry, but are we talking about the same country? Do you mean North Korea perhaps! Korea is one of the most agist countries around (not to mention racist and sexist). After not getting anywhere for months, a recruiter was finally honest with me and told me they wanted people in their twenties and thirties. I was in my late 50′s at the time. The public school system has a mandatory retirement age of 55.
They also have very peculiar ideas of who they will and won’t hire based on set values of beauty (their preference is for blonde haired-blue eyed 20 somethings). In addition, I was told by an African-American woman who was working there through the University of Colorado that the Koreans ideal beauty was someone who had a “small face and big eyes”. As that is exactly what she had, people were always coming up to her to sigh over her “small face, big eyes”. She also said that if someone arrived and they did not like their looks (too fat, not pretty, too thin, etc.), the school would find a back office or out of the way to put them so they wouldn’t be seen.
Korea has no age limits? Please!
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Jude says:
October 24, 2010 at 12:14 am
I guess I was just lucky-sorry about your experience….
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Sylvia Martin says:
September 11, 2009 at 10:14 am
I have been teaching internationally for 30 years. I am now sixty and thinking about recruiting. Is there a list of schools or countries that discriminate according to age. It would be good to know this so one wouldnt have to waste valuable time talking to them. Anyone know of such a list?
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internationalschoolsreview says:
September 20, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Yes, we have a list on the web site
http://www.internationalschoolsreview.com/nonmembers/age-article.htm
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Nordic soul says:
December 19, 2009 at 8:44 am
Great idea…how about setting up a recruitment for over 60′s? or would that be discriminatory? Anyway you’d be inundated with candidates applying and there would be some fab teachers out there still with a wealth of experience to offer. Got for it.
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Peter K says:
April 3, 2011 at 8:33 am
Better yet – someone could open a school staffed largely with veteran teachers and have no end of applicants!
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Mark Fairweather says:
June 16, 2011 at 6:56 pm
I have info to add to this page ….. but clicking on the ” Click here ” on that page doesn’t work !
MF
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Ben Morris says:
September 15, 2009 at 1:58 am
From reading all of the previous posts, it sounds to me as though there is yet a wealth (much of it perhaps untapped!!) of energy, desire, commitment and teaching expertise among the over-50 (like myself) AND over-60 expatriate teachers of the world. I expect to be in no position to retire any time soon, so I plan to teach abroad for as long as I welcome to do so. Of those who have offered comments in this thread, I can vouch for Ray Varey!! I had the distinct privilege of working with him during the 2009-2010 school year in Kosova. I have learned ways of improving my practice of our craft from Ray’s example and occasional wise words of counsel. Some very fortunate school will be very happy once they have scooped Ray up, and the same must be true for so many of you (and hopefully also myself in the fullness of time). Stay with it till you find that job the world would have you think you are too old for!! Retirement can wait. The best possible education available to our children cannot!
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Catherine Blackmore says:
May 24, 2012 at 11:45 pm
Ben Morris,
I very much appreciate your comments. I have just written to Ray Varey to ask for the full title of QSI. I am 62 years of age and have not had a single days sick leave since coming to the Emirates in 2007. I am presently in Kuwait and have to leave because they cannot get me a visa.
Thanks
catherine Blackmore
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Joy says:
September 17, 2009 at 3:39 am
Experience is certainly as much of a factor as age. I got my high school teaching credential at 52 and was turned down over and over for positions in the US. I ended up teaching ESL in Korea to get my foot in the door. I worked kindie/afterschool academy for one year, moved to a public high school for two years, and finally to a private high school where, at last, I get to teach composition in addition to the usual English conversation classes. My ultimate goal was to teach at an international school where I can focus on literature and composition, which is more my area.
I really like my school and have been asked to stay on another year, but I am worried that every year I stay in a traditional Korean school my chances of getting hired as a regular English teacher over ESL are going down. I am thinking the ESL might be useful because some international schools have ESL intensives for students who aren’t quite ready for US or Brit grade level English classes and I could teach part-time ESL and part-time high school level English lit and comp.
Also, Korea is on a March to February calendar instead of a September to August calendar. If you break the contract, even with notice they usually won’t give a release letter, which means you cannot legally work in Korea until the original contract runs out. I am not sure how to get off that merry-go-round, but really want to try Europe, so maybe it is not an issue.
Any comments or sage advise about this?
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Barbara says:
September 20, 2009 at 1:27 pm
At the international schools where I’ve taught, the majority of students speak English as their second, or even their third or fourth language. Intensive English experience is not only valuable, it’s mandatory. Also, you might try getting a job in Europe in a non-EU country, which can be a great back door to traveling in the EU countries. As a plus, the exchange rate against the dollar is much better than it is in Euros.
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Molson says:
April 17, 2010 at 10:32 pm
Joy,
Right now you are on an E2 visa. International schools use an E7 visa. I am not sure if you quitting would make a problem for the obtaining of an E7 visa.
I can say, international schools in China are filled with Korean students and it was on the basis of my ESL work in Korea that I landed a job at a school in China. I teach English and it is funny but there are only a couple of us with an ESL background or awareness. The students really need the type of teacher that can accommodate them, as well as understand their cultural norms.
You might want to look at moving to China. Though, in China the cut off is 60, so if you are nearing that age, it is decision time.
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Jude says:
September 1, 2010 at 3:25 am
Try the International schools in Korea
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Kim says:
September 20, 2009 at 12:23 am
Europe is closed to Americans unless you work at a very funky institute. Save money to travel for a few months after you get off the weird-schedule thing. Choose a country or type of job you really want, then go for it. I’ve been at it for a long time; there is almost NOT a “regular” English teacher job anywhere…anymore. It is always a plus to know what to do with non-native speakers. Got an MA in it and am having an excellent life—all over the world–at 55+.
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Jim says:
September 20, 2009 at 1:39 am
Kim, I’m not sure what you are referring to but I am at a school in Europe (Germany) and the staff include at least nine other Americans. And it’s not a “funky institute”. It’s an IB World School which is fully accredited. Maybe the number count isn’t as high at other schools in Europe but I’m certain that it is possible for American teachers to work in Europe. It took persistence for me to get here, years of it, and when I had decided it almost certainly wasn’t going to happen it did.
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Rountrip says:
December 5, 2009 at 10:18 am
Hi Jim,
I think we’ve conversed before. I am beginning to contact prospective schools this weekend to secure a teaching position for next year. I have a Masters in German and I’m certified in 7 areas(including ESOL). My target countries are Germany, Austria, or Switzerland, but because I have just turned 59, I’m concerned that I will not be considered. Do you have any inside information on any schools which may be interested in me? I have prior overseas experience and excellent recommendations. Thank you.
Brenda
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suze says:
May 24, 2012 at 10:10 pm
You are starting too late! International schools start thinking about their staffing much earlier.
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Ray Varey says:
September 20, 2009 at 4:00 pm
I’m seeing more and more “EU passport required” on jobs that are in Europe. There are increasing restrictions on who can be hired without a great deal of legwork and paperwork to get a visa. Sometimes these visas are unobtainable for non-EU teachers. This, coupled with age restrictions are making it more and more difficult for a ‘mature or experienced’ teacher to land a job at a presitgious school in Western Europe. The further east you go towards Central Europe the less stringent these restrictons seem to become or the less they are enforced. I’ve taught in both Slovakia and Kosova and have seen these restrictions developing. I’m interested in positions in the nether regions of Europe, places that still have babushka ladies in the market place and cheese that does not have to be blessed by the EU mandarins in Brussels.
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Anonymous says:
October 9, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Consider the Baltic States of Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia. Outside the gorgeously preserved historic areas you’ll find a wealth of local and Soviet-influenced culture. The schools are small but don’t appear to discriminate on the basis of age. Prior to leaving Latvia the school hired a 72 year old maths instructor.
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Kim says:
September 24, 2009 at 4:48 am
Joy can quit her Korea job and forget the letter issue–so long as she doesn’t return, I guess. She can focus on a certain country in Eirope and research/network like crazy—and probably find something. But, yeah, I have always looked for ‘high end’ jobs in nether regions, like Ray.
— Joy and Ray…. you gotta see Yerevan, Armenia to believe it. It has a high quality American University. Former Russian influence, Christian, food Middle-Eastern, and also quite East European–all at the same time. Fascinating.
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Joy says:
November 14, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Kim, thanks for that. It’s very encouraging.
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Jim says:
September 26, 2009 at 3:02 am
I have been in international schools since 1970, and at the age of 63 have never had difficulty getting into another international school. I am going to retire at the end of this year from my current school in the Middle East. I’m amazed at how teachers my age can continue to teach into their 70′s full-time.
I find that at my age I can’t let flaws and mitakes go unnoticed, so this year I’m speaking my mind, which many of the younger teachers do not seem to do. They say your should not burn bridges, but if you are, it’s a good idea to do it in your 60′s.
I’ve had the good fortune to have a wonderful retirement plan and am a permanent resident in Singapore, so I’ll substitute teacher in the international schools there and be a science tutor. I’m looking forward to being productive well into my 70′s, but part-time only. I’ve seen t0o many teachers overseas love what they are doing but so inadequately prepare for retirement that they must continue to teach late in life. I do not plan on teaching for that reason.
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Marge says:
September 29, 2009 at 6:02 pm
Lots of good facts on this site-thank you so much! It’s been a discouraging journey thus far for me, a recent TEFL certificate holder, due to my age of 50 plus.
I have nearly a year of solid experience teaching adult immigrants but it is a VOLUNTEER position, that somewhats burns me because my TEFL classmates, with the same degree of experience and talent, progressed on to PAID jobs worldwide; they were in their early 20′s and 30′s.
I also have a hefty school loan to repay and was searching for a country that would allow me to do this and sustain myself frugally. Anyone have any ideas for me, please? I’m willing to travel to remote, rural areas or to bi cities. My heart’s passion is to teach nomadic families as they follow their herds.
Has anyone here ever done this or could hook me up to possible contacts who have?
Thanks, Marj
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Savyjobseeker says:
October 2, 2009 at 8:50 am
Marge- Get real! Why would nomadic tribes want you to teach them English and how would they pay you? Have you ever lived with no electricity, water and choices in food as well as with no privacy. Try the Peace Corp if you want an alternative life as it could be a better match. The EFL/Esl jobs are for those who want to seek a job which uses English or which requires English to get the job. Families who pay for lessons are hoping for a return on their investment in English for their children and thus to themselves. Corporations hire those who are familiar with their training models. Missionary schools expect you to raise the funds for your stay and a heafty committment to staying in remote places learning the local language. What other work experience do you bring to the table? Pairing ESL/EFL teaching skills with it may be the answer. Good luck.
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Joy says:
November 14, 2009 at 6:16 pm
Marge,
Do not be discouraged. It’s true, you may not be able to teach a nomadic tribe; but if you are willing to teach in a rural are you should have no problems. I understand about wanting to volunteer, but having student loans to pay off. I might be in a different location myself if I could afford to volunteer or teach for a nominal salary.
The best places to teach ESL are still Korea and Taiwan. China is easier to get into but the pay is low. It’s a far wage for the cost of living, but may not pay your student loans.
If you say you are willing to go to remote areas, it will definitely help your chances. Have you tried DavesESLcafe? That’s where most of the ESL jobs are posted. If you’ve tried that and had no luck, you might a recruiter; just be cautious and don’t expect after service. I wish I could recommend a recruiter, but the one I use originally has grown and along with the growth service has declined. Once you land your first job in Korea, it is easy to find other employment on your own.
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Kim says:
October 5, 2009 at 11:34 am
She could work in a place like Kuwait in a good-paying school or institute…and then head out on weekends to see the beduin (semi-nomadic still) people in the desert. There is a female crafty connection with weavers and dyers of camel hair–seriously! Small but active (foreigner) groups have revived tribal handicrafts.
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Dan(iel) Yeargain says:
October 9, 2009 at 3:17 pm
I am a 70 year old teach with an M.A. in Spanish and a TEFL certification.
I arrived in Bogota, Colomia, in 2005, got my TEFL cerfification and began teaching in one of the local institutes. I taught mainly to the professionals of Chevron-Texaco, Noika, Nokia-Siemens, Bavaria, etc. which I enjoyed immensly.
The pay was low by U.S. standards but the students were great and very dedicated to learning English.
From 2005 until 2009 I worked for 3 different language institues and one bilingual high school and in every case I had to fight to get my pay. Often it was late and sometimes I was underpaid.
I attempted to get hired in Korea, but apparently I am past the retirement age. Does anyone know where a 70 year old dedicated, experienced teacher can get hired and treated well?
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Joy says:
November 14, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Daniel,
Yes, 60 is the official retirement age in Korean public schools. My school allows you to stay until 62. Small private English institutes will hire older teachers and I do know of a few teachers who have been hired at universities.
I suggest getting a job at a “hagwan,” on of the language institutes and then exploring other possibilities for the next year. Try to stay in touch with other older teachers. We are in the minority, but we help each other out.
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Jude says:
September 9, 2010 at 7:28 am
I am 67 and am working in an International school in Korea. I dont think Korea has an age limit. It is a great place to live-cheaper than Japan and very easy to get around
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frances says:
January 2, 2011 at 9:00 pm
where in Korea are you teaching and what is the name of your school. I have been trying for a year, and once they discover my age, I am dropped like a hot potato. I want to get to Korea, as I have a place to live in Ilsan and would love to spend time with family there.
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Been there….. says:
January 2, 2011 at 9:17 pm
Again , Jude I think you are the exception as far as Korea is concerned. I would not encourage people to look there unless they are very young. Most people over a certain age , myself included, are rejected by Korean schools and I gave it several tries. The last time I was jerked around for 3 months by a large concern who kept issuing contracts, which I would sign,then telling me they had fallen through. I did not bother with public schools as I was over the legal age (57) at the time. I really don’t recommend trying Korea to older teachers.
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Mike says:
February 9, 2011 at 7:17 am
I work in Thailand and a few years ago, one of the western managers lost his position at the school that I worked at that time. The reason was they wanted to get a Thai in the position that was related to the owner. Anyway, he had plenty of experience & was a good manager & popular with the staff. As what eventually happens to older teachers here, he couldn’t get anything decent here for his qualifications. So, he applied to KOREA for a management position by email & success-he got it! Or so he thought. He paid his own money to fly there & he was met at the airport by the school’s reps. But then they went aside and began some sort of heated discussion about what to do. After awhile, one of the school reps took him aside and gently explained to him that they would be unable to honor their job offer because he “walked with a limp.” So, he had to get back on a plane & fly back to the USA empty handed. I hear many stories like that about Korea from young & old teachers. They are supposed to be bastards to work for.
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Roundtrip says:
February 8, 2011 at 8:41 am
Hi Jude,
Do you feel safe in Korea? I’ve just turned 60 and am trying to get back overseas. I’ve always heard how great Korea is, but I concerned about the relationship between North and South Korea.
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Jude says:
February 9, 2011 at 7:55 pm
I feel very safe in Korea and am enjoying everything about it!
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Renee Crawley says:
October 10, 2009 at 1:09 am
My husband and I taught in Abu Dhabi for 4 years. My husband turned 60 while working there and received visas after that, although the law states 60 is the “end”. If a school wants you there are ways around the rule. After our 4 years, we were hired to teach in Hyderabad, India. My husband is now 63 and I will be 58. We have 2 year contracts and are planning on staying longer. Experience seems to be valued on the International scene, unlike home, USA, where districts are watching their “pennies” and resist hiring teachers with many years on the job because we’re too “high priced”. We plan to stay International until we’re ready to retire, which won’t be soon. Take heart over 50′s! There are wonderful schools and jobs for you to enjoy!
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Nanette Moseley says:
February 9, 2011 at 4:25 am
I am so glad to hear this. I graduated from TEFL training in Dec. and have been applying since then, online, not an encouraging endeavor. I am 62 with a Degree in Education, little experience, except in the Outdoor tourism field in Canada. I am feeling discouraged.
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Carole J says:
March 21, 2011 at 5:17 pm
Nanette,
I can sympathize. I am 58 and would like to apply when I turn 60; I’m concerned, due to the age issue. I really want to go overseas, and teach to have an income. After reading all these, not sure what to do.
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Brenda says:
October 15, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Finding this 50′s blog has been a Godsend for me today. I registered this summer with a recruiting firm, then heard through the grapevine about this age restriction thing. I am concerned that my recruiting firm (one of the best known) never mentioned the age problem when they took my money. I’ll be 59 next week. Since my target countries were to be Germany, Austria, or Switzerland, I’m just glad I found out “on my own” about those countries’ limits before I spent over $1,000 going to a hiring conference. This has been a tough summer. I was one of the thousands of teachers who lost their positions in the reduction in force. I have 7 fields of certification, a Masters in German, 22 years of experience, and excellent recommendations. I’m just hoping I can find a school abroad that can appreciate what I have to bring to the table. I’ll check out some of the areas you all have suggested. Kim, thanks for the tip on Yerevan. Never heard of it, but it sounds pretty. I’d still love to get into Germany or Austria since I’m fluent in German. Thanks to you, CelticSong, for your positive note. I’m not going to give up. By the way, any tips on the best hiring conferences to attend?
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Takeheartover6o’s says:
October 15, 2009 at 5:59 pm
I saw my sixtieth birthday several years ago and in the last three weeks have managed to find three schools in Western Europe and one in South America interested enough in my credentials and experience to short list me or to grant me an interview. I picked up a five month contract in Central Europe last year when someone went home at Christmas and decided not to return. I trust I’ll land at least one of these positions. Joyjobs is a great source for jobs, send off your details to anything that looks remotely interesting, you’re bound to get a nibble.
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Jim says:
October 15, 2009 at 9:17 pm
Brenda,
First, good luck in your search. The bad news is, the financial crisis is definitely affecting hiring and keeping positions at international schools. Going to a job fair is expensive but it can be the best way to get yourself recognized and make an impression. That said, I came away from several with nothing. Also, the past two jobs I have had came, at least in part, through the internet so make sure you are connected. Several colleagues including the high school principal where I teach have joined “Linked In” which is an internet site for professionals in many fields. It’s free.
I am working in Germany and your Deutschsprechen qualifications as well as others should be helpful. If you want to be in Germany, Austria or Switzerland I would focus on those places. Have you contacted the John F Kennedy School in Berlin? They require new teachers to have taught recently in the U.S.
Again, good luck!
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Brenda says:
October 16, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Thank you, Jim. I do know about the JFK school in Berlin, but do you think they would consider this old fossil? I taught for a year in Austria back in the early 90′s. Unfortunately, the school closed due to financial problems, but it was one of the most rewarding years of my teaching career. I’d go back in a heartbeat. Maybe you could ask your school in Germany what their stand is on age. I might just get bold and contact some schools and ask them. I’ve heard it is sometimes listed in their benefit package explanations on their web sites. I plan on spending this summer in Austria just hiking and relaxing. I think I’ll take some supporting documentation and knock on some doors.
Brenda
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Jim says:
October 16, 2009 at 11:09 pm
Brenda, schools usually ask staff to declare in December whether or not they intend to return the following September. Administrators attend job fairs beginning in late January trying to fill positions they expect to be vacated. Sometimes they don’t know of all of the positions which will need to be filled but that is the usual procedure. Most positions are filled and contracts signed by April. Statistically, January and February are the prime months. Sometimes things happen after that but not so many. So, although it might not be as relaxing weather wise I would say make that a winter vacation and go knocking on doors in early January, before the administrators trudge off to the fairs. Many of them hate to make these trips which are as exhausting for them as for teachers if not more so. Most are happy to have only a few positions to fill by the time they get there.
Switzerland in particular offers some great train tours in winter. I’m not a skier but I was there last January and really loved tromping around in the mountains near Flims.
As for my school we have four or so people “of a certain age” so the administration does give consideration to older teachers. at 72 and in my fourth year at our school I am by far the oldest.
In addition to JFK you might try Dresden and Leipzig, and the schools in Vienna and Salzburg. Switzerland has so many schools I wouldn’t know where to start.
Whichever firm you are registered with make sure that they have your dossier marked “active”
p.s. There are two guys named “Jim” on this blog but that’s probably obvious already.
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Brenda says:
October 18, 2009 at 7:26 am
Jim~I think it is fabulous that you are 72 and still teaching abroad. You’ve given me new hope. I may make a list of the schools in my target areas, contact them, and ask if I can pop in to meet them a week before or after Christmas. I don’t have anything to do during Christmas anyway, and our school gives us two weeks off. I’ll read the school reviews first. If you have first-hand accounts of some wonderful schools, I’m open for suggestions. Thanks you.
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Jim (in Germany) says:
December 5, 2009 at 11:21 am
Brenda,
In reply to your message today, i don’t have any really specific information to add to what I have previously written except to say that our director polled us about 10 days ago about our plans for the coming academic year. We were to have responded to her no later than yesterday that we were either 1. planning to leave 2. planning to stay or 3. undecided.
I would imagine that most administrators world-wide have done the same. These things are not “written in stone” but they do often indicate a kind of trend. We had a teacher announce this week that she was leaving in January as her husband had taken a job elsewhere. And so it goes.
I’d be curious as to how things work out for you. It sounds to me like you have real possibilities for success. Good luck!
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Picasso says:
October 25, 2009 at 5:41 pm
I am a 63 year old female teaching middle school and have had no problem getting jobs in Asia and Eastern Europe. It can be tiring as you get older if you join a school that expects you to work weekends and take on extracurricular activities on a daily basis. As long as they keep hiring.. I guess I’ll keep working.
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Brenda says:
October 31, 2009 at 10:05 am
Hi Picasso,
I’m proud of you and all of the rest of you who have not let yourselves be defined or discouraged because of maturity. I decided this week to go for it. I only have one reservation…as a baby boomer, I fear leaving my parents who are in their late 80′s. They are in great health now, but what if something happened to them and I were overseas? They have encouraged me to follow my heart and and take each day at a time without fear. I wish I had returned overseas 10 years ago. I can’t do anything about the past, but I can move forward in a more enlightened path. Do any of you have input to the situation of aging parents as it relates to your leaving the country? I just feel so guilty.
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JazzFan says:
October 31, 2009 at 11:06 am
Hello, Brenda.
Your folks gave you their blessings “to follow My heart and take each day at a time without fear.” Consider that; it is kind of “permission” from them for you. It may also be a statement for you to let them go.
We moved to the Middle East and are 10 hours ahead of our families in terms of time. It is difficult to leave aging parents at home. Health issues are real. (It still is a concern for my wife, whose 85-year-old father is the remaining parent of ours. He looks terrible on paper but is a vibrant curmudgeon!) Depending where you land, you can still keep in touch with them by using a Voice Over Internet Protocol (VoIP), such as Skype, Koala, Vonage, etc. With a webcam, a VoIP also allows callers to see one another–webcams can produce images that lag a bit behind the conversation, however.
Aside from that, is a trustworthy support system for your folks in place? (I am referring to other siblings, close relatives or friends, and the like, as well as a reliable health care provider.) Having that in place may alleviate any anxiety you may have about their safety and welfare. Anyway, only you can decide what is best for yourself. Bless you for caring about your parents.
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Jim says:
October 31, 2009 at 11:18 pm
For those of you that prefer not to have full year contracts, you might consider International Supply Teachers. I have been a member of that group for a number of years and have been offered position anywhere from 3 months to a year as a substitute teacher (with all benefits). It’s something to consider.
Finally, I’m 63 and amazed that there are still quite a few teachers my age and older that are teaching full time. I will stop this year though, as my savings for retirement is solid, as is my health insurance.
I wonder how many are teaching that simply have to teach. I’ve met a number of teachers that are teaching at 60 and above simply becasue they need the health insurance, and some have planned so inadequately that they do not have enough money to live comfortably. When you are retired, you can still experience other cultures through travel and volunteer work. I just think that teaching FULL TIME in your 60′s and 70′s is not exactly how most people want to spend the rest of their lives.
Jim (the other Jim)
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Jim (in Germany) says:
November 1, 2009 at 12:16 am
Jim (the other Jim):
I spent three years away from teaching. During that time I realized that I still wanted to work as a teacher.
One of my most satisfying jobs was spending two years in the mountains of Venzuela working in a village enrichment school. It was more or less like a Peace Corps job and very rewarding. I lived in a cabin with a tin roof and walls that let in “the nature” at every crack. i was paid the equivalent of $200 a month so I ended up “subsidizing myself” as the school was run on a shoestring.
In my present job I decided to “lighten up” two years ago and asked for an 80% contract which was granted. I end up spending most of that time at school anyway doing things at a more leisurely pace. In this situation I have found that I am more effective than I have ever been before, giving my students a deeper, more thoughtful experience.
Jim (in Germany)
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Jim says:
November 1, 2009 at 12:36 am
Jim (in Germany),
The type of work you are doing is ideal for one in his 60′s and 70′s. There is something about working full time in your 60′s that doesn’t seem quite right nor appropriate. You are expected to do the extracurricular activities, show up for meetings, and probably needing to work on weekends grading and preparing lessons. If you’re like I am and have been doing that for more than 38 years, it’s time to, as you say, “lighten up”.
Of course I plan on teaching a little in the future or doing something similar to what you did in Venezuela, but to take on a full time contract means you either (1) love teaching with a passion and want to die doing it OR (2) need the money OR (3) need health insurance. Most older teachers teach becasue of 2 or 3, and that’s been my anecdotal experience.
Jim
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Joy says:
November 14, 2009 at 6:40 pm
FYI: Just a word about school hiring limitations. There is a webpage where someone has made a list. Sorry, I thought I had it bookmarked, but can’t find it now. But with a little searching you shold be able to find it. I wouldn’t start there, but it’s a good way to avoid wasting time with schools that aren’t going to consider you. I think it’s better to just choose some good targets.
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Lynne Adrienne says:
November 17, 2009 at 1:41 am
I am a 57 yr old female and I have a B ED degree, Dip TESL qualification and I am a trained kindergarten teacher and have New Zealand teacher registration.
I have taught ESL across all age groups in Middle East, Asia and Cameroon. My 2 year contract in Cameroon ended after 6 months through mutual agreement – I was not happy with my work and living conditions and my Manager was not happy with my lack of advanced grammar teaching experience (my previous experience has mainly focused on a communicatve approach).
I am currently relieving early childhood teaching in New Zealand but I am interested in teaching in a primary school in Brunei. Is there any possibility of over teachers over 55yrs getting teaching jobs in Brunei? Do I need a Primary Teaching diploma if I have a kindergarten teaching qualification and if I’m a registered teacher?
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Ray says:
November 23, 2009 at 6:23 pm
If a school has a real need for a teacher there is a good chance they will waive any concerns about age. Schools that lose teachers mid-term due to illness, unexpected departures or maternity leaves are more open to accepting ‘mature’ teachers. I’m old enough to collect my national and old age government pensions and I’ve been offered two positions in the last three weeks. Along with my age I have excellent experience in the classroom and in administration, I’m flexible, have taught in five countries, can work with anyone anywhere, like kids, am a team player, have a positive attitude and am low maintenance for the administration once I arrive. Those are the qualities that land jobs. Keep applying to places where you want to teach and something is bound to come up. In my last two jobs, altho there was only one job posted, I have been able to organize jobs for my spouse as well.
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Jude says:
December 3, 2010 at 8:13 pm
I totally agree with you on all counts.
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Kim says:
December 22, 2009 at 10:55 pm
I just realized most refer to “schools” and thus men will have an advantage, age be damned. (I work in universities.)
For more like PART – TIME work, virtually anyone can get some hours at “Institutes” which are everywhere. You just tell them you only are available for mornings or evenings…or… and flexibility is appreciated. Of course, there are good and bad aspects to institute work…
Once you’ve listened and learned and researched, it is obvious that there are many desperate regions of the world—thankfully, places that will take a chance on “outliers” of any kind. God bless ‘em!
Once in China, I was offered 2.5x the salary to just stay! They knew they were desperate for people who knew the job.
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Elizabeth says:
December 29, 2009 at 10:06 am
What about if you are looking for a career change, I am 60, kids grown and looking to start a career as a ESL teacher. I do not have teaching experience. Too drastic? I do love kids, have lots of energy and changes in living conditions would not bother me.
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JMW says:
January 3, 2010 at 3:04 am
Are there any countries out there that will happily employ teachers over 60 who are still motivated, interested in working and have excellent health? Please name countries, and schools if you are able. Many thanks.
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JazzFan says:
January 3, 2010 at 11:43 am
Yes, quite a number but not all countries. On the Search Associates web site, age limitations posted by schools are listed. Peculiarly, two schools within the same country may have two different limitations: no limitations or and 59, such as some European nations. (Switzerland comes to mind.) KSA (Kingdom of Saudi Arabia) or UAE will not issue work permits to foreigners who are 60-years-old. Lebanon has no age restrictions. This matter is variable in Asia. Not all countries advertise the age restrictions for issuing work permits.
Quite a number of countries I have researched are jumping on the IB bandwagon, but this is a different kind of “limitation,” unless a teacher has training in IB (or PYP or MYP).
From my point of view, refer to Search or conduct your own search through Google or Yahoo. I hope what I wrote is informative and less unclear to you. Bon chance!
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Olderwiser says:
January 4, 2010 at 5:38 am
I turn 66 on Friday. Today I began my new career at a very good international school in Germany. If you have the skills they need and the experience and present yourself as a vital capable candidate you can get a job offer in many places no matter what your age.
If you see a position that you like, apply for it. Sometimes you might get the nod as the best canadiate.
I have picked up contracts in the last two years because a school needed a teacher at an odd time. We have also turned one job ad into a positon for my wife as well in the last two years…as she had the skills needed to solve a problem in the school.
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Brenda says:
January 9, 2010 at 3:38 pm
Hi Olderwiser,
I am very anxious to return to either Germany, Austria, or Switzerland to teach, but I am 59 and am aware of the age restrictions. Could you recommend some popular schools for me to contact that don’t have a problem hiring older teachers? I have excellent credentials and a Masters in German. (I’m registered with ISS). Thank you. Roundtrip
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Rountrip says:
January 10, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Thanks, Olderwiser,
You’ve given me new confidence. I think I will go back and take the graduation dates off my resume though.
Hope you are having a good year.
Roundtrip
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Nancy says:
June 17, 2011 at 1:13 am
My uncle is 90 and has 12 music students. He is in Californina. His retirement is covered by his government pension, but he is still in demand as a teacher!
Sounds like you have the right attitude.
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JMW says:
January 4, 2010 at 10:11 pm
Thank you JazzFan and Oldwiser for your responses which hearten me. I shall keep browsing and asking questions. So far it just seems everywhere I have looked that 60 is the bar. Never mind, I’ll widen my searches and keep dreaming. Thanks.
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Brenda says:
January 9, 2010 at 12:29 pm
I want to teach in Germany, Austria, or Switzerland, but I just turned 59. Does anyone have first-hand experience/knowledge about schools in these countries hiring old farts like me?
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Olderwiser says:
January 10, 2010 at 1:31 pm
Just select a job or a location that you are interested in and have a go at it. I seldom if ever include the date of my graduation from universities…I let them figure that out if they choose to. Sometimes their need is so great, or your skills and experience are so ‘right on’ that they will waive any interest in the matter of age. I just give them as much info as possible on my extensive background and let them decide if they want to persue the matter of employment. I’ve just turned 66 and turned down leadership positions in two countries I didn’t want to spend two years in and accepted a job in a place I wanted to be for a while.
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Liam says:
January 10, 2010 at 6:06 am
My question to anyone is…I am 62 and want to teach at an international school in Thailand. Does Thailand have an age restriction policy and if so is it enforced by the government or does the school make their own policy?
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barry says:
January 19, 2010 at 11:35 pm
Liam – I have been offered a job at an IS in Thailand. Age is not seemingly a concern. I will be 61 upon arrival there. ONe thing I want to know is this: How many countries employ people over 60 but do not recruit over 60? You see the subtle difference?
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Expat from MN says:
May 24, 2012 at 11:49 pm
It is ok to work there until 65…then forget it.
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Brenda says:
January 10, 2010 at 9:39 am
Liam, I think Thailand is pretty strict, but like the other