We need to get every candidate running for federal office in 2018 on board.

Peace Dividend Candidates

We need to get every candidate running for federal office in 2018 on board.

The Peace Dividend Refund is long overdue.

It’s time the government paid up!

As I mentioned in my previous blog . . .

“All the Peace Dividend strategy requires is that people look at it, then stand strong and united — stick up for themselves and other good decent American citizens who have been getting the shaft — then go into the voting booth and only vote for candidates who give us a legally-binding guarantee that they will go to Washington DC and do what needs to be done.”

Okay, that’s simple enough.  We know who to vote for and who not to vote for.

But what’s a “legally-binding guarantee”?

This is the legally-binding candidate contract for the Peace Dividend Refund:

It’s very straightforward.

If we really want our money back; if we want the endless wars to stop; if we want to see our country become strong, safe, solvent; if we want to reverse the barbarous, self-destructive militarization of our country and the world; if we want to end the slaughter of thousands of innocent people across the globe and be respected again as a country that promotes peace and harmony, then . . .

We only vote for candidates who sign the above contract.

No compromise.  No equivocation.  No negotiation.  No fear.

If a candidate for federal office — President, Senate, House of Representatives — will not sign on the dotted line, he does not deserve, nor will he or she get our vote.

If we stand strong, remain united, refuse to back down, we can do this.

Our children and our children’s children will thank us.

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Paying For The Peace Dividend


by johnrachel


Understandably, the first reaction I get when I tell people we’re going to get the U.S. government to refund to its citizens $4,826,000,000,000 is:  “What?  We can’t afford that.  Our government is already in hock over $19 trillion and every year since 2000, we’ve been running a deficit.”

Aside from the fact that the deficit spending — which has been the focus of overwrought debates, ultimatums, government shutdowns, and a celebrated hand grenade tossed back and forth in the political blame game — is both unnecessary and entirely intentional, the ultimate impact of the Peace Dividend is actually to remedy such fiscal irresponsibility.  The Peace Dividend refund drives a whole host of fundamental reforms which will over time help to put our financial house in order.  However, that’s a topic for another blog.

The Peace Dividend is paid out over three years.  Thus, each year we have to come up with a little over $1.6 trillion each fiscal year.

Here’s how we do it.  Here’s how we raise a minimum of $1.6 trillion dollars each year . . .

$200 billion . . . cut from the official DOD budget.

$83 billion . . . cut from future Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria war budgets.

$45 billion . . . cut from homeland security agency budgets.

$32 billion . . . cut from the black budgets of the NSA and CIA.

$102 billion . . . raised from closing tax loopholes and taxing offshored money.

$469 billion . . . ending unnecessary and counter-productive corporate welfare.

$103 billion . . . raised by making corporations pay their fair share of taxes.

$400 billion . . . raising income taxes on the wealthiest to what they were in 1975.

$177 billion. . . raised from financial transaction tax on public trading.

$250 billion . . . raised by issuing domestic-use-only Peace Dollars.

$250 billion . . . raised issuing Peace Bonds for investing in a peaceful future.

I better slow down!  I’m already way over $2 trillion!

Now, as you all know, I’m not an economic analyst, a statistician, a financial wizard of any ilk.  Yet, I was able in broad strokes to demonstrate how simple it is to make the necessary adjustments.  Granted, my plan will have to be fine-tuned by acclaimed and self-anointed experts.  But before the proselytizers and pretenders armed with skepticism and hatchets subject us to their pompous, pedantic and patronizing pruning, just bear this in mind . . .

peace-dividend_cover_400x600The Peace Dividend is a refund due to American citizens.  That is a given.  Read my book.  It’s all there.  I didn’t make this stuff up.  The facts are clear.  American citizens have been the victims of the greatest rip-off of tax money in the history of the world.  They deserve — and should demand, no excuses, no negotiation, no compromise — a full refund.  No analysis can alter this reality.

Yes, it may be unprecedented.  It most certainly is controversial.  Traditionalists and those who have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo — because it keeps them wealthy and in the centers of power — will declare it outrageous!  Insane!  Irresponsible!  Impossible!

But the the truth is, what’s outrageous, insane, irresponsible and impossible, is to promote and pursue never-ending war, to keep needlessly killing innocent people — including our own fine young men and women in uniform — and to continue turning America into the pariah of the world community with incessant bombing and support of terrorist proxies.  What’s truly outrageous, insane, irresponsible, and impossible is spreading chaos, destruction and death, fomenting terrorist attacks and an unparalleled refugee crisis across the globe. Yes, what’s outrageous, insane, irresponsible and impossible is the pursuit of a psychopathic agenda of imperial conquest, which has destroyed our democracy and imposed a vulgar, savage regime of paranoia and insecurity here at home, i.e. the insidious and fraudulent War on Terror.  This madness must be stopped or America will crumble under the weight of its own hubris and delusions of grandeur.

The point here is a simple one.  What’s not lacking here are the mechanics of finding and refunding the money.  What’s lacking is the political will.  What’s lacking is any sense of responsibility among our corrupt pay-for-play political leaders.  What’s tragically lacking is the public awareness of how far out-of-control the situation is.  Were people to wake up to what’s really going on with our military madness, imperial delusions of world empire, and the ruthless oppression of everyday citizens under a systematic, propaganda-fueled, carefully-crafted and entirely orchestrated regime of totalitarian control by a veritable handful of rich and powerful elites, heads would roll! 

Maybe I’m naive, but I’m hoping it won’t come to that.  With 300 million guns at hand, when things start getting violent, we can only expect a bloodbath to unfold.  My sincere hope is that the urgently required regime change is still possible non-violently.  We do this by replacing any uncooperative legislators with ones who understand that their obligations are first and foremost to their constituents, that being elected to represent us, implies that they actually will represent us, putting our welfare and the health of our families and communities ahead of all else.

I propose the Peace Dividend as a decisive test.  It’s a line in the sand.

Either “they” are for it or against it.

It’s how we decide who to vote for.  If a candidate won’t support it — by signing a legally binding contract to guarantee his or her support — then we find one who will.

The games are over.  The rich and powerful plutocrats have had a good run.  They’ve bled the country and its citizens dry.  Now it’s payback time.

If the politicos who’ve created and perpetuated the mess we’re in can’t own up to the error of their way and fix the problem, beginning with proper redress in the form of a full refund of the money taken fraudulently from good, decent, hard-working Americans, then they are not serious about making the necessary changes, regardless of what they say.

Either they give us our money back, or they get their walking papers.

They do not deserve our support and will be removed — unelected — from office.

These soon-to-be ex-congressman and presidential hopefuls are very talented people.

I’m sure they’ll do well on the comedy club circuit or selling time-shares in the Caribbean.

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The Peace Dividend: Could It Really Happen?

peace div·i·dend
  1. a sum of public money that becomes available for other purposes when spending on defense is reduced.

by johnrachel


I came up with the Peace Dividend strategy over two years ago.  At the time, recognizing that the plan was — to say the least — very radical, completely unprecedented, totally outside-the-box, I thought that if it had even the slimmest chance of getting any traction, it was going to be a long and winding road to successfully “sell” and implement it.

To get the plan underway requires that we package peace in an entirely different way, that instead of only appealing to pity and conscience, we focus on personal self-interest.

This is not meant to be cynical.  It’s not that people don’t care about suffering.  It’s that most individuals care first about the suffering of those immediately around them, not those in far flung nations they can barely find on a map.

The Peace Dividend strategy is a bottoms-up, grass-roots approach especially targeting folks on the bottom of our economy — the 160+ million who are hovering around or are below the poverty line — because they are most devastated by the economic impact of America’s military aggression and full-throttle pursuit of world empire.

The Peace Dividend strategy is about letting citizens know what’s really going on with the military waste and the endless wars, and making them very angry!  Angry enough to do something about it, certainly for their country, but most of all for themselves and their families — those whose suffering they see every single day in the struggle for survival.

Such a citizen’s “uprising” would be premised on generating a widespread, critical mass understanding that in terms of America’s prosecution of wars, aggressive foreign policy, promoting militarism both overseas and here at home, we as citizens are “being lied to”, we are victims of a huge scam, that the “system is rigged”, that a bunch of “Washington insiders” are running the show, despots who couldn’t care less what the general public regards as important, what we as regular citizens want done.

Do “being lied to”, “system is rigged”, “Washington insiders” sound familiar?

They should.

Trump’s election as president, leaves little doubt that a large segment of the population — viewing our government establishment as a whole — do indeed see things that way.  It’s obvious to anyone paying attention that everyday citizens are being taken advantage of, that we have been and continue to be had by a ruling elite, that they will suck every last drop of blood out of the American economy and us individually if we let them.  And with each mounting disaster, every day even more people are waking up to the tyranny being imposed on us.  There has never been before a period in my lifetime when I’ve seen so much frustration and outrage with the nation’s failing, cold-blooded leadership.

Therefore, I’m now convinced that if we as peace advocates make the case for the Peace Dividend with boldness and clarity, success is inevitable.  Yes!  It could really happen.

As rigorously documented in The Peace Dividend: The Most Controversial Proposal in the History of the World, the military-industrial-security complex allied with a deranged inner circle inside our foreign policy institutions, have perpetrated over the past two-and-a-half decades the most odious fraud in history.  This conservatively amounts to stealing $4.82 trillion of tax payer money.  We have every right to, thus should demand not only that the deception and theft immediately stop, but that as victims of this swindle, we as citizens be compensated.  We deserve and demand full reimbursement:  The Peace Dividend Refund.

The beauty of my approach to voicing our outrage, and asserting our rights as citizens, is that it is entirely legal, based completely on the official facts published by our government, assiduously aligned with the Constitution — therefore not able to be labeled insurrectionist or traitorous — wholly consistent with a democracy based on government of the people, by the people, for the people.

I’m not going to condense a mercifully short but still 86-page-long book for this article. What I will do is give you the “big picture” so that you don’t casually dismiss the idea.

RECOGNIZE:  No current elected official will go along with the Peace Dividend proposal. They and their ruling class puppeteers will oppose it with every dirty trick in the book.

CONSIDER:  When everyday people understand that they’ve been ripped off, defrauded, bilked out of at least $4.82 trillion, there might be a bit of anger out there — in fact a lot.

ACKNOWLEDGE:  When everyday people realize they have the power to demand this fraudulently collected tax payer money back in the form of a $14,952 refund to each and every living citizen, they might just get a little excited.  In fact, if the word gets around, I predict they will immediately, forcefully, uncompromisingly demand their money back — every last dollar!

Let’s put this together.  The VOTING public demands their Peace Dividend Refund.  The incumbents cannot, will not even fake interest in giving in to such an outrageous demand. They will dodge and lie and rail against it.  The VOTING public sees this as more evidence that the “system is rigged”, that “they are getting shafted”, that they are again being had by the establishment blowhards who never do anything for everyday citizens.  Here we have the seeds, the tinder for a MASSIVE VOTER REVOLT.  We unite these angry, frustrated voters into a VOTING BLOC, rejecting business as usual — fraud as usual! — behind the demand of justice and fair compensation in the form of the Peace Dividend Refund. As a result, the vast majority of corporate lapdog incumbents are defeated and replaced by OUTSIDERS who agree to go to Washington DC and put into law . . .

The Peace Dividend Refund Act of 2019!

Sound at all familiar?  Sort of the way an OUTSIDER got elected to president, via a voter revolt that basically said:  “Fuck you! We’re sick of it. The hell with politics as usual.”

Is this mere fantasy?  In these outlandish, ridiculous times?  Where truth is stranger than fiction?  Really?

I think it’s all pretty clear.  And it will be even clearer after Trump and the current pack of bloodthirsty, Wall Street/ruling class puppets in Congress totally muck everything up.

People are going to be ripe for revenge!  Heads are going to roll.

They’ll want their damn money back, I guarantee you!

By the way, please take a few minutes and look at the way the Peace Dividend is funded.  You will note that it drives a lot of the very items on any sensible progressive reform wish list.  Meaning, the Peace Dividend is a watershed for revamping the way our government does business.  I would think that alone would make it worth the time to carefully study, with an open and alert mind, and some thoughtful engagement.

I know that marching in the streets, getting clubbed, pepper-sprayed, manhandled and arrested, are good times and all.  But a lot of people are working two or three jobs just to make ends meet, and can’t join in on the fun.  All the Peace Dividend strategy requires is that people look at it, then stand strong and united — stick up for themselves and other good decent American citizens who have been getting the shaft — then go into the voting booth and only vote for candidates who give us a legally-binding guarantee that they will go to Washington DC and do what needs to be done.  (More on that binding guarantee in the next blog.)

I look at it this way:  Even if a lot of folks have extremely demanding schedules — thus are too busy to fly to Washington DC to attend a peace rally — I’m confident most will find the time to deposit $14,952 in their bank account.

How about you?

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Raining Bread from Heaven? What’s that about?

Then the Lord said to Moses, “I am going to rain bread from heaven for you, and each day the people shall go out and gather enough for that day.”

Exodus 16:4 

God offers the hungry Hebrews in the wilderness manna, bread from heaven, each day for 40 years. It was always a day’s portion; it was always enough for all. The manna never lasted to the next day – so the families couldn’t hoard. They had to trust that each day there would be bread from heaven, and it would be enough. Imagine learning to trust God for daily bread – it might take us 40 years, too!

Kelley Nikondeha is a practical theologian hungry for the New City. She is the co-director for Communities of Hope, a community development enterprise in Burundi. She and her husband co-founded Amahoro Africa, an African conversation for African thinkers and practitioners. She is the author of the forthcoming book Adopted: The Sacrament of Belonging in a Fractured World (Eerdmans, August 2017).
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Rediscovering My Country from Cuban Soil

Tomgram: Mattea Kramer, Road Rules, or Rediscovering My Country from Cuban Soil

It has to be one of the oddities of our history: the near-obsessive level of attention that, for almost 60 years, Washington has lavished on a modest-sized, impoverished island-nation of little strategic importance 90 miles off our southern coast. I’m talking, of course, about Cuba, which the U.S. has embargoed since 1959, as it hasn’t North Korea or any other country on this planet.

It was a U.S. bailiwick with an all-American autocrat running it until 1959 when Fidel Castro’s guerilla movement took the country by storm.  Almost immediately, it would become the prize in the Cold War set-to between the U.S. and the Soviet Union. Who of a certain age (I’m speaking, of course, about myself) could forget October 22, 1962? That night, President John F. Kennedy addressed the nation by television and radio, offering a chilling warning about an ongoing nuclear stand-off with the Soviets over Cuba. “We will not prematurely or unnecessarily risk the costs of worldwide nuclear war in which even the fruits of victory would be ashes in our mouth,” he said, “but neither will we shrink from the risk at any time it must be faced.” Though we hadn’t known it until that moment, we were in the midst of the Cuban missile crisis during which the world came as close to ending as it ever has in our nuclear era.

And here was the odd thing: when the Soviet Union disappeared from the face of the Earth in 1991, an ebullient (if shocked) Washington declared ultimate victory, proclaimed itself the “sole superpower” on planet Earth, and then continued to embargo the island and obsess about it and its dangers as if the Cold War were still the global paradigm. Cuba has, in other words, been on this country’s mind for almost six decades now. Given this history, it’s hardly surprising that TomDispatch regular Mattea Kramer would visit that island to escape from our increasingly bizarre “American” world and instead meet that world face to face. Tom

Found in Cuba: The American Dream (and Nightmare)
Putting Trump in Perspective by Going Offshore
By Mattea Kramer

I’ll tell you up front that my personal vehicle has crowns of rust on the rear wheel wells and an interior that smells vaguely of dog puke. It’s a 2006 Mazda3 with 150,244 miles on it and it gets me around my modest world well enough, but I sure never considered it the stuff of headlines — until I went to Cuba, an experience that tuned up my feelings about several American phenomena.

Click here to read more of this dispatch.

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Was bedeutet Ostern für die Christen, was Ramadan für die Moslems? Toleranz und Verständnis für andere Religionen?

Religion in der Kita
Was bedeutet Ostern für die Christen, was Ramadan für die Moslems? Toleranz und Verständnis für andere Religionen wird im Berliner Bezirk Wedding schon früh geübt: in der Kindertagesstätte der Osterkirche.
Unter den Fingernägeln brennen
Wenn etwas brennt, kann man die Feuerwehr rufen oder einen Eimer Wasser holen. Gegen das Feuer unter den Fingernägeln hilft das aber nicht. Dann sollte man besser sagen, was man schon lange loswerden wollte.
Mein Computer und ich
Beinahe täglich leistet er uns gute Dienste: unser Computer. Allerdings muss er auch Einiges ertragen. Vor allem sein Bedien- und Steuerelement, die Tastatur. Und manchmal auch der Bildschirm.
Der Paradiesvogel
Einen Paradiesvogel erkennt man oft schon von Weitem. Er lebt seine Individualität und macht sich selbst zu seinem eigenen Kunstwerk.
Kolumne: “Bubicasso” ante portas – Leon Löwentraut in Berlin
Ist Leon Löwentraut der neue Picasso oder ein Lifestyle-Produkt? Von den Medien wird er gehypt und von Sammlern wie wild gekauft. Berlin mag solche Typen, meint unser Kolumnist Gero Schließ. Und das sei auch gut so.
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Brilliant Idea for Saving Meals on Wheels From Trump’s Budget Cuts


Trevor Noah Has a Brilliant Idea for Saving Meals on Wheels From Trump’s Budget Cuts

By Joe McCarthy| 

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US President Donald Trump’s proposed budget for 2018 wants to beef up the military while starving government programs like Meals on Wheels.

So “Daily Show With Trevor Noah” correspondent Roy Wood Jr. has a clever idea. If the Trump administration loves the military so much, why not disguise Meals on Wheels as a military venture?

Introducing: Meal Team Six.

What follows is a hilarious satire loaded with pointed critiques of the administration.

A group of “soldiers” in combat gear patrol a neighborhood in a heavily fortified tank, scope out Meals on Wheels mission plans, and fire food into people’s homes.

Read More: 23 Ways Trump’s Proposed Budget Is Bad News for Global Citizens

A lot is packed into the short skit.

First, the Daily Show reminds the audience that 500,000 of the 2.4 million elderly people who receive Meals on Wheels are veterans who rely on and have a deep appreciation for the meals and companionship of the program.

Two veterans star in the sequence — Peter and Irene. They’ve both been receiving meals for many years.

“I’ve been with Meals on Wheels since 1990, I get their meals three times a week, and I enjoy them very much,” Peter says.

The skit then has a three-pronged critique of the military. One is that the government spends an exorbitant amount on the military — more than the next 8 countries combined — a lot of this money goes to waste, and programs described as military often have very little oversight, as was the case in the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan.

Since so little oversight exists, maybe Meal Team Six could slip by unnoticed.

Read More: How Donald Trump’s Proposed Cuts to US Foreign Aid Actually Endanger America

Next, by showing this bumbling group failing to effectively deliver meals, the skit suggests that military missions are often carried out haphazardly — as was the case in the Trump administration’s first raid in Yemen, full of collateral damage.

Finally, the skit satirizes the jarring absurdity of seeing war equipment in quiet neighborhoods — an increasingly common sighting as police forces across the US receive the Pentagon’s excess war equipment.

Read More: Obama on ‘Daily Show’: I Won’t Stay Quiet During Trump’s Presidency

Through all this satire, the skit underlines the good done by Meals on Wheels and how spending money on helping the elderly makes more sense than fueling wars.

Like fellow late night host John Oliver, Noah isn’t afraid to go after injustices in the world, and he’s skilled enough to deal with them in disarming ways.

“Let me get this straight,” Noah says in the opening of the sequence. “The Trump administration will defend Putin, white supremacists, and sexual assault, but ‘delivering food to old people? That’s immoral. I have to look at my family at night.’”


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More on Noam and Amy talking Truth to Power and to ALL

Watch: Noam Chomsky & Amy Goodman in Conversation


Amy Goodman is conducting a public interview of renowned professor and dissident Noam Chomsky tonight at the First Parish Church in Cambridge, Massachusetts. Part of the discussion will focus on Chomsky’s new book, “Requiem for the American Dream: The 10 Principles of Concentration of Wealth & Power.”

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CIA Targeting of Julian Assange of WikiLeaks = “Disgraceful Act”

Chomsky: CIA Targeting of Julian Assange of WikiLeaks is “Disgraceful Act”

STORY APRIL 26, 2017


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Last week, the Trump administration reportedly prepared an arrest warrant for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, and Attorney General Jeff Sessions said the Justice Department was seeking to put Assange in jail. Amy Goodman asked world-renowned linguist and dissident Noam Chomsky about the U.S. targeting of Julian Assange, during a wide-ranging conversation at the First Parish Church in Cambridge, Massachusetts, on Monday night.

This is a rush transcript. Copy may not be in its final form.

AMY GOODMAN: Noam, I wanted to, before we get to your book, your latest book, ask you about this latest development in the United States. The director of the Central Intelligence Agency gave his first major address, and he focused on WikiLeaks. And it looks like now the U.S. is preparing an arrest warrant for Julian Assange, who’s been holed up in the Ecuadorean Embassy in London for almost five years now. Pompeo calling WikiLeaks a “hostile non-state intelligence service,” calling Julian Assange himself a “demon,” and said he’s not protected by the First Amendment. Your thoughts?

NOAM CHOMSKY: Well, I think it speaks for itself. WikiLeaks has released lots of information that governments don’t like. It’s overwhelmingly information that citizens should have. It’s information about what their governments are doing. And perfectly natural that systems of power don’t want to be exposed, so they’ll do what they can to prevent exposure. I think it’s a disgraceful act. In fact, I think it’s disgraceful even to keep Julian Assange holed up in the Ecuadorean Embassy. I did visit him there once, but you can guess yourself. It’s, in many ways, worse than imprisonment. At least if you’re in prison, you can see other prisoners, and you can get out and look at the sunshine now and then. He’s in a small apartment, where he can’t go out. You know, he can go to the balcony, but that’s about it, a small—basically, a couple of rooms inside a small apartment. It’s not a big embassy. The embassy is like a kind of an apartment in London, surrounded by police and so on. There’s been no credible basis for any of this. And to go on to try to raise it to the level of criminal prosecutions, I think, is, again, one of these efforts to look tough at home, and the kind of effort that a government would carry out that is dedicated to trying to protect itself from exposure of facts that citizens should have, but systems of power don’t want them to have. I think that’s the crucial issue.

AMY GOODMAN: The suggestions are it has to do with his aiding and abetting perhaps Chelsea Manning and also Edward Snowden, doing that with Edward Snowden, which he openly admits, while he’s trapped in the Ecuadorean Embassy.

NOAM CHOMSKY: If the charge is true, he should be honored for it. Chelsea Manning and Edward Snowden carried out heroic, courageous acts. They fulfilled the responsibility of somebody who takes citizenship seriously—that is, who believes that the people of a country ought to know something about what their government is up to. OK? Like if their government is carrying out murderous, brutal attacks in Iraq, people should know about it. Takes us back to Martin Luther King’s talk in 1967. If the government is, and corporations, too, incidentally, are listening in to your telephone conversations and what you’re doing, you know, tapping this discussion and so on, we should know about it. Governments have no right to do things like that. And people should know about it. And if they think it’s OK, fine, let them decide, not do it in secret. And I think people wouldn’t agree to it. That’s why it’s kept secret. Why else keep it secret? You know? And these are people who exposed it at great risk to themselves. So those are heroic, courageous acts. If WikiLeaks was abetting them, more power to them. That’s what they should be doing.

AMY GOODMAN: I mean, President Trump endorsed WikiLeaks, right? He said, “I love WikiLeaks,” during the campaign.

NOAM CHOMSKY: Yeah, when it was releasing things that he liked, yeah. Any system of power will do that. “You release information that I like, it’s great. But I don’t want to be exposed.”

AMY GOODMAN: That’s MIT professor Noam Chomsky speaking on Monday at the First Parish Church in Cambridge. To see our full conversation, go to democracynow.org.

That does it for our show. I’ll be speaking at Middlebury College in Vermont today at noon, then on to the Vermont College of Fine Arts in Montpelier at 7:00. Tomorrow, Thursday, at noon, I’ll be at Bennington College, tomorrow night at the Unitarian church on Pearl Street in Burlington, Vermont. Then, on Saturday night, after Democracy Now!‘s 5-hour broadcast of the People’s Climate March in Washington, D.C., I’ll be speaking at the Plymouth Congregational Church.

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